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Oh WoW, I was so in love with you for giving out so many more details than FFXI ever did... then I learned the pain of all the stuff you don't tell your players. Listing only some of the changes a patch brings seems almost worse than saying nothing at all.

This morning I read the patch notes. Had no big reaction (there was one 'too late fix' listed, but it was no biggie). Then I logged onto the game.

XP in AV (PvP BG) has been cut by 60%.

FFXI would have at least said "XP has been adjusted", which everyone would know would mean a nerf. Why did WoW say nothing? Why did I have to learn from word of mouth?

Yeah, I can agree there needed to be an adjustment, last night on guild I said it would be nerfed soon, but 60% reduction? Look up "draconian" in the dictionary and you'll find this nerf.

Too late fix #1: PvP dailies. Now the NPC will only offer you quests you can accept. So from 11-20 you'll only be offered WSG. 21-50 only WSG or AB. Why couldn't this have been done, say, back when I was those levels and kicking the NPC because nine times out of ten I couldn't accept the daily?

Too late fix #2: This one actually hurts me, not just annoys me like #1. AV levels have been adjusted. Now a bracket is 50-59, 60-69, etc like the other BGs. Not only did I have to wait a level longer than others now will, but this is going to kill, totally kill, my effort to get 100K HKs. How? Once I hit 80, I'll be BGing only against other 80s. Matches will be less frequent, and there will be a hell of a lot fewer kills. Blah.

All in all, this is just so amazingly frustrating. Happily I was not in a rush to get to 80, but I wasn't enjoying my time in AV so I didn't exactly want to be forced to do it more for the same XP... It's really the next-to-impossibility of getting to 100 HKs that's making me sad.

Stupid WoW.

QQ

Date: 2009-09-23 06:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] naikitty.livejournal.com
not because PvP is faster than PvE.

Actually, before the nerf, it WAS faster. I spent a day questing, then spent a day AVing. AV was nearly twice as much exp in the 71-80 bracket for less effort. It needed to be nerfed, and badly. It -was- fun while it lasted, but no one should level solely on PVP. That's not how WoW was designed. :3

Date: 2009-09-23 06:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veloxe.livejournal.com
You mean the developers didn't intend for all of your level 1-80 to be done without questing?!? Madness I tell you!

Date: 2009-09-23 07:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thistle-chaser.livejournal.com
WSG doesn't become available until 10, so it's impossible to do 1-80 without questing! ;)

I'm kind of sort of tempted to do this again, just starting at 10 instead of 18 or whatever I was when I started (18 or 19...). I seem to recall hating WSG at that level though, I think it was only when I hit 20 and could go to AB that I started liking it...

Date: 2009-09-23 10:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veloxe.livejournal.com
You could totally grind from 1-10 just killing mobs without quests so HA! :P

Date: 2009-09-24 04:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thistle-chaser.livejournal.com
Ha! You're right! :D *ponders*

Date: 2009-09-23 07:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thistle-chaser.livejournal.com
but no one should level solely on PVP. That's not how WoW was designed. :3

Maybe not originally, but they wanted PvP to be a viable option. At the moment, it's not.

However, if they adjusted it once, they might do so again. Either way, I'm less annoyed today. It still sucks ass, but why do I care? It's not like I wanted to be 80 anyway (that's not sarcasm, I have no need to be 80 and do have need not to be 80).

The only thing that still annoys me is that this was a secret nerf. I had thought Blizzard was better than that; I'm sad if I was wrong about that. Oh, that and the queue time, that needs a fix and badly. (If two BGs (Isle and Strand) have never yet been done since yesterday's patch, not in our whole battlegroup, there's something wrong with the queue system.)

Date: 2009-09-23 07:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thistle-chaser.livejournal.com
AV was nearly twice as much exp in the 71-80 bracket for less effort. It needed to be nerfed

I never disagreed that the 71-80 needed to be nerfed (though do with how harshly it was), but when all the previous brackets took ~12 hours of AVing per level... Can you imagine it now? 24 hours of AV to level once? That is neither fair nor reasonable. Hell, you get better XP/hour in FFXI's version of non-questing XP (Campaign battles). When FFXI is better than you, you know there's an issue. :P

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