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It's not often that a website leaves me at a total loss for words, but focusonyourchild.com has accomplished that. I'm just boggling at the amount of incorrect, illogical information presented as fact. (Credit for the link goes to

juliansinger, I think? I saw it on my flist this morning, but can't find the post now.)

How would you like to have parents who made comments like this?

"My son couldn’t care less about sports and the great outdoors. He's painfully shy and easily gets hurt. Other kids call him a sissy. I’ve tried everything. My boy even wimped out of Cub Scouts. What am I supposed to do?"

"Our oldest daughter, Lisa, is starting junior high soon. She's a hopeless tomboy. If she had her way, she'd never wear skirts or dresses. She can't wait to sign up for the school wrestling team this fall. If I say no, she'll throw a fit. Where's the magic wand so I can turn her into a lovely princess?"

Oh nos! Your son "wimped out" of Cub Scouts! Oh no! Your daughter won't wear a dress! Gasp! They must be headed down the path towards homosexuality!

But hey, don't worry! If your child does turn out to be gay, they can be cured! Because homosexuality is a disease, after all...

As speechless and annoyed as this site leaves me, it also makes me so sad. Some people believe that stuff. They'll read the site and nod in agreement with it. Their poor, poor kids, and our poor, poor country.

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On a related note,

kirbyk made a good post this morning on the word 'homophobia':

"I don't like the word homophobia.

Because that's not what it is. I'm sure there are people with an actual irrational fear, a phobia, of gay people. This is a mental disorder, and I feel for them, like people afraid of spiders or the English or what have you. Get well soon.

What most people refer to is more like racism, but with sexual preference instead of skin color."

Find the whole post here.

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The part that made me snort in amusement was:

3. Dr. James Dobson reports: “There is also the vigorous effort by gays to infiltrate the Boy Scouts in the same way lesbians have done so successfully in the Girl Scouts, where 33 percent of their staff is said to be lesbian.”

I have this mental image of the Homosexual HQ (where a copy of the Gay Agenda is kept) and girl guides come in with 'We have successfully reccied the Straight People's plans. We believe tents and campfire songs may be involved. Clearly, we must move soon, or else we will be at the cooking pots cooing about how Brad from the latest teen pop sensation is soooo dreamy.'

*snickers lots* Yeah. And, um...

"where 33 percent of their staff is said to be lesbian."

Said by..? The people who wrote up this website, no doubt.

Sheesh...

I've always wondered about the term homophobia myself, but ... afraid of the English? Did he mean fear of British people? Is that an actual phobia?
If it is I know it should be taken seriously but... I can't stop from snickering.

"It was horrible! I was surrounded and they kept using these strange words! What is brill? What is a roundabout?! I need a few moments to calm down... and the tea! Sweet lord, the tea was everywhere!"

The tea! The tea! Won't somebody think of the tea?

*snickers* I'm not sure if it is a real one or not, but I suppose it could be!

Thanks for the links, particularly the last one.

I hate what they are doing. I've always hated being forced into the gender role of "woman". I do identify myself (loosely) as female, but the gender role of woman - to get a husband and 3+ kids, has always seemed like a nightmare to me. I'm so glad I realized I didn't have to before it was too late.

Same here. I don't wear dresses, I don't want to get married, and please please please don't give me any kids, yet I am a woman... at least according to myself. I suppose the people who made that website would disagree.

You know what? F them! Oh...wait...

Ha ha ha. :)

The only reason I'd get married would be for legal benefits. Paying less tax, making the one left behind inherit stuff if we didn't die at the same time, making it easier for him to move to my country or vice versa, etc.

I don't intend to reproduce, ever. The whole human reproductive system disgusts me most days. I don't want a damn parasite growing inside me, and I certainly don't want to add to the overpopulation of this poor planet. Not to mention that I couldn't afford to. I was raised in near poverty, and wouldn't wish that upon anyone else.

I'm sure those people wouldn't see me as a woman. I've already had breast reduction surgery, and I'd be getting a tubal litigation as well if it wasn't so fricking expensive.

I've been removing myself from what "they" say a woman should be.. but as for what it means to be a woman.. I don't have an answer. I don't think it matters. I tend to view people as persons rather than men and women anyway.

Agreed on all that, and I'm so tempted to go the breast reduction route (really, really tempted, breasts are so annoying!).

I've been removing myself from what "they" say a woman should be..

My opinion is, so long as you are happy with you, then that's all that matters. I wish more people shared that opinion...

Truth is, I still hate my breasts. Of course I prefer my B-cup (bordering on C) to my previous.. G?..(YAY, I can buy my bras in regular clothing stores now!) but they're still large and in the way and all that I hated about them before, only not as much. Oh, and no more back pain. ^_^
But I really wish I could've had them removed entirely.

I love my scars. I call them my "battle scars" - proof that I fought to improve my life, and won.

Heh, and here I thought I was the only one who wanted her breasts totally removed! They do nothing at all for me, they get in the way, and yeah the whole back pain thing.

I told the surgeon I didn't want them, but he wouldn't hear it. He absolutely refused to go for an A-cup too, saying it'd look "wrong" with the rest of my body. I barely managed to negotiate it down to a B..

Like he knows what it's like to wear two huge, saggy lumps of fat tissue permanently attached to one's chest. Pretentious jerk, acting like I'd be "incomplete" if I didn't have any eye candy to please the guys. Yeah, I'm sure plenty of women feel that way after having their breasts removed because of breast cancer or whatever, but I'm not like that. I don't want breasts.

People look at me like I'm insane when I say I wish I get breast cancer so I can have them removed.

At least that's more likely than me ever having enough money to pay for another surgery. I got off with a small co-pay on this one because I had a legitimate need for the surgery, back pain and all.

If you don't mind my asking, what size are yours, since you mention back pain?

Like he knows what it's like to wear two huge, saggy lumps of fat tissue permanently attached to one's chest.

Ha ha ha, yes!

Toss me your email address? I'll give you the rest of the reply that way.

Just use my username @livejournal.com - I got a permanent account too, remember? :)

Yeah, I should have checked that. :p *emailing!*

My breasts are killing me (grr, period coming -- another thing that needs to be gotten rid of!), so I was reminded of our conversation. If my email hasn' made it, check your spam filters. My address is usually caught by them. (hot-hot-hot-catlove.come).

Yeah, I got the mail. My spamfilter only flags stuff as spam, it doesn't delete or move. And lately it hasn't caught anything.

That reminds me.. My nipples used to ache right before my period.. They don't do that anymore. I don't know if it's because of the surgery, or because I don't have real periods anymore (thanks to the copper IUD) - I have massive bleedings instead. Real blood. And monster cramps.

(and I'm not even sexually active, partner or choice being on a different continent and all)

I hate the human reproductive system. It's disgusting, messy and inconvenient. And I hate how women get the worst end of the deal.

And it's not like I can go to my doctor and say "I don't want to be a woman anymore" either.. she'd just attribute it to my recently returned depression.

I hate the human reproductive system. It's disgusting, messy and inconvenient. And I hate how women get the worst end of the deal.

Totally agreed, 100%. Couldn't agree more.

I didn't actually link to it, and when I went to it, it inspired Great Fear in me.

But thank you for the link!

Welcome! :)

Also, as I will tell Kirby, heterosexism.

Oh ye gods! My worst fear is coming true! I think my son is a homosexua1... I know this because he also wimped out of cub scouts. My son! ; ;

What advertising for the Cub Scouts! "Become a Scout or become gay!" Parents will be flocking to sign their kids up!

Eeehh...I agree with you for the most part, but I can't help see that first comment in a different light. It sounds to me that the parent is less worried about their son being homosexual and more about him being bullied because he seems to have no hobbies and no interest in conformed gender roles. Kids can be cruel when someone clearly doesn't belong in their 'viewpoint' of how people should be and parents, while meaning well, can be more damaging to a kid because of their own limited preconceptions as to how society works.

However, because the comment is on a site like that, I can also see why someone might believe that it's contempt inspired. ;)

I can see your point, but wouldn't it be better if the situation was changed instead of the kids? Instead of trying to make the child fit in, maybe they ("they" being society) should work to stop bullying instead... Then everyone could be themselves without worrying that the crap was going to be kicked out of them if they're different.

Yes, but to stop bullying, you have to stop the mindset that creates it. It's funny you should say something like that, though. Lots of people have tried to change situations in that manner, but haven't had much luck since most bullies take the bullying somewhere else. The only way to prevent that is to 'bully-proof' every place and no one seems to have the resources to do that yet.

The only way to prevent that is to 'bully-proof' every place and no one seems to have the resources to do that yet.

Yeah... I'd like to think the parents could stop it, but to do that they'd have to 1) care enough to find out if their kids were bullies (or bullied) and 2) care enough to do something about it. Both of those things are not very likely.

'Cause you know, every person who doesn't fit neatly into society's clearly defined gender roles is clearly a homosexual. X_x

The thing that bugs me the most about the whole thing is that all these parents are doing nothing but giving their kids the message that they aren't good enough. This leads to all kinds of bad things, but some people think it's not only OK but *necessary* in order to be a good parent.

Agreed to both parts. Such a sad situation...

*Waves at Thistle* Heya Thistle! *Devours*

And what a dumb website. o.o;

Oh! If you don't mind, I also added you. =)

Sure thing! And adding you back! Woo!

What else can I say except: Oh baby!

;)

Hi there!

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