If it sounds too good to be true...

Grrr mumble. My 17 button MMO mouse arrived today, woo! I opened the shipping box and found... the mouse. Loose. No mouse-box, no paperwork, nothing. Just the mouse loose in the box. A quick bit of googling showed it does indeed come in a box (and a rather spiffy one at that). So, confused and a tad annoyed, I emailed the company it came from. It's refurbished. Used. >< They claim it was stated in the ad, but since the company does "one day specials" and the next day that special changes to something else, I can't go back and check the page to see if it really said that or not.

Bah.

$50 ($45 + $5 shipping) for a used mouse. Blah. I can get a brand new of this same mouse from Amazon for $70. Mumble. I emailed them again asking for their return policy (their FAQ only mentions returns for defective items). I suspect I'm not going to like what they say (otherwise why would they not make the info easy to find?).

This is the second time I've gotten screwed over because someone on my flist said WOW LOOK AT THIS SALE. Never again. I'm sticking with Amazon from now on.

Edit: Wow. So never, ever, ever buying from Woot in the future. On returning items that are not broken:

No. See, figuring out whether you want a product is your job. We lay out the specs, open up the forum to opinions and reviews, and encourage every wooter to do as much research as possible. If you do all that and make a bad decision, we recommend selling your unwanted woot on eBay. You'll probably wind up making a profit on the deal. Of course, if your product is broken, or not what you ordered, contact us and we'll take care of you. But our cold, hard hearts have no sympathy for victims of buyer's remorse.

Edit2: Wow, not just a bad company, but full of assholes:

Will I receive customer support like I'm used to?

No. Well, not really. If you buy something you don't end up liking or you have what marketing people call "buyer's remorse," sell it on eBay. It's likely you'll make money doing this and save everyone a hassle. If the item doesn't work, find out what you're doing wrong. Yes, we know you think the item is bad, but it's probably your fault. Google your problem, or come back to that product discussion in our community and ask other people if they know. Try to call the manufacturer and ask if they know. If you give up and must return it to us, then follow on to the next FAQ entry [linked back to the first email, edit #1].

If it sounds too good to be true...

Grrr mumble. My 17 button MMO mouse arrived today, woo! I opened the shipping box and found... the mouse. Loose. No mouse-box, no paperwork, nothing. Just the mouse loose in the box. A quick bit of googling showed it does indeed come in a box (and a rather spiffy one at that). So, confused and a tad annoyed, I emailed the company it came from. It's refurbished. Used. >< They claim it was stated in the ad, but since the company does "one day specials" and the next day that special changes to something else, I can't go back and check the page to see if it really said that or not.

Bah.

$50 ($45 + $5 shipping) for a used mouse. Blah. I can get a brand new of this same mouse from Amazon for $70. Mumble. I emailed them again asking for their return policy (their FAQ only mentions returns for defective items). I suspect I'm not going to like what they say (otherwise why would they not make the info easy to find?).

This is the second time I've gotten screwed over because someone on my flist said WOW LOOK AT THIS SALE. Never again. I'm sticking with Amazon from now on.

Edit: Wow. So never, ever, ever buying from Woot in the future. On returning items that are not broken:

No. See, figuring out whether you want a product is your job. We lay out the specs, open up the forum to opinions and reviews, and encourage every wooter to do as much research as possible. If you do all that and make a bad decision, we recommend selling your unwanted woot on eBay. You'll probably wind up making a profit on the deal. Of course, if your product is broken, or not what you ordered, contact us and we'll take care of you. But our cold, hard hearts have no sympathy for victims of buyer's remorse.

Edit2: Wow, not just a bad company, but full of assholes:

Will I receive customer support like I'm used to?

No. Well, not really. If you buy something you don't end up liking or you have what marketing people call "buyer's remorse," sell it on eBay. It's likely you'll make money doing this and save everyone a hassle. If the item doesn't work, find out what you're doing wrong. Yes, we know you think the item is bad, but it's probably your fault. Google your problem, or come back to that product discussion in our community and ask other people if they know. Try to call the manufacturer and ask if they know. If you give up and must return it to us, then follow on to the next FAQ entry [linked back to the first email, edit #1].

17 button mouse review: Day one, photos, and memes!

I knew going in that this thing would have a giant learning curve, but I didn't know how sharp and how long it would take. Based on reviews, it takes 17-22 hours of use for it to become natural (but once it does, it's better than anything).

I'm not certain I'm seeing a benefit in it for me, at least for the very limited use I'm using it right now (moving, mounting). There's a number pad on the side of the mouse, for use by your thumb. 1-12. I have 12 for auto run, 11 for turning right, 10 for left, and 9 for mounting land mount, 6 for mounting flying mount/flight form. Oh, a picture will make this easier, and can make use of my new camera!


Holy cat fur, Batman! (The picture doesn't do it justice. It's sleek black, with the number pad, wheel, and logo glowing a deep blue. Pretty!)

12-11-10 is a way more natural movement for my thumb than 12-9-6, that's why I set up running that way. Still, I'm really not sure if it's easier to move that way than to have my hand a few inches over and using the number pad instead. Plus, during my hour or so of use, it makes my thumb/hand cramp up. (Once I get used to it, I'm guessing that'll stop, since right now I'm holding it really tense and trying to remember where buttons are so I don't run into walls endlessly.)

Once I'm used to it, once I can use it without thinking and for more than just moving, I think it might be a good thing. I find myself falling back on using the keyboard to move though, I have to remember to make myself use the mouse and even then sometimes I just don't feel like it!

Photos! A non-LJ friend and I were talking about how many notes we take for MMOs. That made me laugh, as I had five or six notebooks filled with FFXI notes and for WoW I have... one page. Compare the two, and see my sucky handwriting, too! It's hard to tell, because the inside back cover is white, but that's the last page of a 500 page notebook (Easter egg tracking on FFXI!). The top notebook, the WoW one? That's the one and only page I used. :P (And yes, I need a new desk. Likely will get one soon.)

Last picture, and an answer to one of ani_mama's meme questions: I'm glad I bought a sofa, my cat loves it. She uses it 37492147014701 times more than me, ha! It's a perfect sofa for a cat, leather and really smushy, so when she rests on it she sinks in. From the back, she can look out the window!

And on the subject of memes, I mentioned the '30 day IC blog post' one, but I decided not to do it on the very first day. I really don't like feeling like I HAVE TO blog every day, once a day. I think that's the same reason I never went back to the RP one (yet?), it annoyed me that I had to write every day...

17 button mouse review: Day one, photos, and memes!

I knew going in that this thing would have a giant learning curve, but I didn't know how sharp and how long it would take. Based on reviews, it takes 17-22 hours of use for it to become natural (but once it does, it's better than anything).

I'm not certain I'm seeing a benefit in it for me, at least for the very limited use I'm using it right now (moving, mounting). There's a number pad on the side of the mouse, for use by your thumb. 1-12. I have 12 for auto run, 11 for turning right, 10 for left, and 9 for mounting land mount, 6 for mounting flying mount/flight form. Oh, a picture will make this easier, and can make use of my new camera!


Holy cat fur, Batman! (The picture doesn't do it justice. It's sleek black, with the number pad, wheel, and logo glowing a deep blue. Pretty!)

12-11-10 is a way more natural movement for my thumb than 12-9-6, that's why I set up running that way. Still, I'm really not sure if it's easier to move that way than to have my hand a few inches over and using the number pad instead. Plus, during my hour or so of use, it makes my thumb/hand cramp up. (Once I get used to it, I'm guessing that'll stop, since right now I'm holding it really tense and trying to remember where buttons are so I don't run into walls endlessly.)

Once I'm used to it, once I can use it without thinking and for more than just moving, I think it might be a good thing. I find myself falling back on using the keyboard to move though, I have to remember to make myself use the mouse and even then sometimes I just don't feel like it!

Photos! A non-LJ friend and I were talking about how many notes we take for MMOs. That made me laugh, as I had five or six notebooks filled with FFXI notes and for WoW I have... one page. Compare the two, and see my sucky handwriting, too! It's hard to tell, because the inside back cover is white, but that's the last page of a 500 page notebook (Easter egg tracking on FFXI!). The top notebook, the WoW one? That's the one and only page I used. :P (And yes, I need a new desk. Likely will get one soon.)

Last picture, and an answer to one of ani_mama's meme questions: I'm glad I bought a sofa, my cat loves it. She uses it 37492147014701 times more than me, ha! It's a perfect sofa for a cat, leather and really smushy, so when she rests on it she sinks in. From the back, she can look out the window!

And on the subject of memes, I mentioned the '30 day IC blog post' one, but I decided not to do it on the very first day. I really don't like feeling like I HAVE TO blog every day, once a day. I think that's the same reason I never went back to the RP one (yet?), it annoyed me that I had to write every day...