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I became a white mage because I wanted to be able to help folks. I wanted to run around and heal them when they were hurt, cast helpful spells on them, etc. One of the most helpful spells is raise (bring someone back from the dead), so when I finally got it, I was very very happy.

I don't raise people hoping to get paid (not that I've ever been offered anything), and I don't do it to be thanked (though that would be nice if it ever happened), so I suppose what happened last night was just too much to expect.

I'm currently stuck in Mhaura. I'm dealing with a series of quests which require RL hours of standing around doing nothing between each one (!!! exactly my point yesterday: the running around and hoop-jumping the game requires).

Background: On the ferry ride to Mhaura, the Sea Horror showed up. The boat was full of people. It was a bloody mess. Every five or ten seconds, another person died. Either I was the only white mage on the ship or the others were in hiding. I raised as I could, and when the ship docked I raised the people on land. Four of them were from the same party -- that's important to the story. Out of eight or so raises, I got one single thank you. Total.

Back to the story: So in one of the three hour periods of waiting, I decided to try to go get another clay imprint. I knew Buburimu Peninsula must be about the same level as the Dunes (which I have never had problems with), so I left the city, cast Sneak on myself, and set out at a run. A few moments later, and an unseen goblin cast Bind on me. Arg! Goblins are bad! It attacked and attacked while I was stuck. I used the /help command (my first time ever). No one came. Eventually Bind wore off, but the stupid (smart) monster cast it on me again. I survived the battle (thankfully), but decided to run back to the city instead of continuing on to get the imprint. Seconds later, just over a hill, I ran into the party I had raised. The party was standing around, doing nothing. The party who I had raised four of the six members did not respond to my /help call, even though it was in the same damned area. A goblin. Six of them, warrior-looking types. They could have killed a goblin in their sleep. Hell, any single one of their party members could have likely taken the darned thing in just a second or two!

Why the hell do I bother? What in the world made me think that helping random people would do any good? What do these idiots think, not helping someone who saved their asses? What is wrong with people? Hell, what's wrong with me for having expected anything other than what happened?

Bah.

Date: 2004-06-09 09:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eilonwey.livejournal.com
*hugs*

I'm sorry you are having so many bad experiences with raise. It seems to me that when Verity has raised someone, she usually at least gets a bow in thanks. Don't know why the immature twerps without any manners are gravitating towards you.

Myself, I've only used raise once since I got it and it was on someone who apparently already had a raise pending and was AFK. Total waste.

Date: 2004-06-09 09:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thistle-chaser.livejournal.com
Don't know why the immature twerps without any manners are gravitating towards you.

Probably just to give me good material to grump about in my LJ. :)

Thanks! See you tonight, if the group happens!

Help help help! <Raise> in H-6! x10!

Date: 2004-06-09 11:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glaciation.livejournal.com
Before you got Raise, I always felt selfconscious around you whenever I applied my Brutal Realism filter to Raise requests, knowing that you were looking forward to helping folks out. Now that you're having the same experiences I've had, I can relax!

Also, you've probably now seen why healing people fighting purple monsters that can kill you is a bad idea!

Re: Help help help! <Raise> in H-6! x10!

Date: 2004-06-09 11:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thistle-chaser.livejournal.com
Heehee! Sorry for two reasons then:

1) That my naiveness made you feel anything different, but more importantly:

2) 99.99999% of my time thus far, I've had shout filtered out, so I had no idea you weren't responding to some of them! (The only time I let shouts through is when I need a teleport.)

I have to work on getting a realism filter of my own!

Also, you've probably now seen why healing people fighting purple monsters that can kill you is a bad idea!

Fortunately or unfortunately, yes. Last night on the ferry I didn't heal/protect/shell people during fights just because there was a thunder elemental on the deck, and I recalled someone saying that they aggro to magic. In a way that makes me feel selfish, though on the other hand it doesn't make me feel dead. :)

Date: 2004-06-09 12:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chrysoula.livejournal.com
Somehow you seem to be doing the long-term quests that I think are designed to be done as you pass through the portal towns on your way somewhere else, rather than all at once. Are you doing these because you've done all the other quests you can get in the three main cities already?

Date: 2004-06-09 12:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thistle-chaser.livejournal.com
Since Mhaura is semi-out of the way, I'd rather get this series done all at once (assuming I have the fame for it). I don't pass through Mhaura to get anywhere (if I need to get to Windy, I'd teleport to the crag and then chocobo), so the only way to do these is to go there for that reason.

If he won't give me the third one (which he may not, he should have this morning but didn't, I suspect my fame is lacking), then I'll leave. Eventually, when I go to Selbina to drop off more clay, I'll hop on the ferry and see if he'll give it to me.

Are you doing these because you've done all the other quests you can get in the three main cities already?

I've done only a couple in Windy, and fewer in Bastok. If I don't get the third quest in this Mhaura series and/or don't get offered the third gobbiebag upgrade when we go back to Jeuno tonight, I may camp out in Windy or Bastok and do some there. (Not that I have enough money for the third bag upgrade anymore, but I'd like to be offered it so I can start kicking myself to save money for it. :) )

Date: 2004-06-09 01:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chrysoula.livejournal.com
You should do the Mission Abroad bits, up to the final fight. You can solo those, and you'll get story, and be in a good position to take on the boss fight with the Operation:Paladin group.

Um, that is, if you'll forgive me for 'you should'ing you. But it's something to do that would give you forward progress on the game.

Re: Help help help! <Raise> in H-6! x10!

Date: 2004-06-09 01:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glaciation.livejournal.com
Yes. All elementals do aggro to casting, and they do so from a REALLY long range. I hunt tree seeds in Passhow, and I've often aggroed elementals from the very edge of the monster draw limit.

Re: Help help help! <Raise> in H-6! x10!

Date: 2004-06-09 01:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thistle-chaser.livejournal.com
Oh, interesting. I hadn't know about the distance. Thanks!

Date: 2004-06-09 01:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thistle-chaser.livejournal.com
Hee, I don't mind "you should"s at all! I did the first part of it (in Sandy), but I haven't done the Bastok mine thingie part yet. Someone (Russet?) mentioned waiting and having someone go with me to make it faster, so I haven't been in a rush to get that part done. Seeing how I get lost so easily, I figured someone going with me wouldn't be a bad idea.

Rank 3 would be good, as it's one step closer to 5!

Thanks!

Date: 2004-06-10 10:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] loneguardian.livejournal.com
Mm, some people can deal with the idiots, some people can't. ^^ That's why WHMs who will go out of their way to answer raises are getting to be rather rare. Me? I like to park myself at the Selbina zone and play Raise Patrol with Draque. We don't get thanks half the time, nor do we get help, but in the future we know our names will be remembered. :3 Keep in mind, the reward isn't immediate most of the time, but making a good name for yourself in the playerbase will help you tons.

Also, what level were those warriortypes? It's possible they were scared of going after something too strong for them, or they coulda still been weak from the raises, or even have no clue what the call-for-help thing is. ^^ Forgive me, taking the other side just for debate's sake. ^_~ Lord knows I've had my share of asshats too. >:3 (Ah, my no-Raise list.. *pets it*)

Date: 2004-06-10 01:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thistle-chaser.livejournal.com
No worries on taking the other side! The next day I did start wondering those things myself (I never checked their levels, for example).

Lots of WHMs mention a no-Raise list. Do you keep it on a piece of paper? Use your blacklist? Or keep it in your head?

Date: 2004-06-12 07:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] loneguardian.livejournal.com
I use my blacklist if I want to realy remember the jerks, it keeps them from /telling me in the first place. Plus I hate saying no to a Raise in /tells. Sometimes I refuse to Raise once and then just let it be (like the moron who was stealing all our leeches that one time).

Then there's just people you know are jerks and take their pleas with a grain of salt. Why it's important to be nice to people, your name gets circulated and you do gain a level of fame outside of the coded version. ^^

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