And people thought California had no morals at all!

[thistlechaser]

Having sex with corpses is now officially illegal in California.

Ewww.

"The state's first attempt to outlaw necrophilia, in response to a case of a man charged with having sex with the corpse of a 4-year-old girl..."

EWWWW.

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[fealu-bryne.livejournal.com]

...I just had lunch, too.

PEOPLE. ARE. SICK.

[thistle-chaser.livejournal.com]

...I just had lunch, too.

Good thing I didn't post a link to the story about the man who dug up his dead grandson, butchered the body, cooked it, and ate it!

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=573&e=9&u=/nm/odd_zambia_cannibal_dc

...oops. ;)

[quasilemur.livejournal.com]

I really don't have as much of a problem with necrophilia as most people, I think, but it was still just a little messed up that in CA, you couldn't smoke in a bar, but you could fuck a corpse.

[morinotokei.livejournal.com]

Ok, you always find the strangest news ever. xD;; Also, I should not have clicked on that link in your comment above. I just ate lunch too.

*runs and hides*

[fealu-bryne.livejournal.com]

The necrophilia thing is bad enough -- gross in itself, but also blatant disrespect for the dead -- but my biggest issue is the fact that it was a four-year-old girl. I'm sorry, I don't care if she was dead or not, the fact that people could possibly do something of that sort to a child makes me want to throw up.

I might have issues when it comes to the way I think, but at least it doesn't screw up other people. Innocent other people.

...I'm done rambling now, honest.

[quasilemur.livejournal.com]

You'd probably say necrophilia and pedophilia are both wrong, yes? Then does that make fucking a dead kid worse than doing a live one? It's doubly wrong, after all.

Personally, I think that once the kid is dead, the factors that cause people do deem pedophilia wrong are no longer present. Consent is no longer an issue, because it's not a living thing. And there's no longer a risk of emotional or mental damage, since, well, it's dead.

Am I endorsing necrophilia? Nah, I'm just being difficult. But it someone's gonna bump uglies with little girls regardless, I'd much rather it be dead ones that he can pretend are little girls. After all, assuming he was convicted for abusing little girls, and locked away, that would require him to have abused at least one already. I think it's very socially conscious of him to sublimate his urges into something with no victims. This concludes my infernal advocacy.

[wanderingscribe.livejournal.com]

D:

That's all, because I could go into a big 'WTF' about screwing a corpse versus going into a bar of my own free will and not able to smoke anymore. ('s a NY state law now.) But I won't because there's a big difference between hurting myself and desecrating the body of somebody's loved one who is now dead.

Just plain AGH.

[thistle-chaser.livejournal.com]

I don't worry about it "disrespecting the dead" if someone has sex with a body (what's the dead body? Just meat, no difference than a dead cow or a dead dog), but I think it could be a sign of some sort of mental or personality trait that we'd probably be better off not having walking around on the street and in the gene pool.

I found myself trying to be careful in the wording of the above paragraph, worrying I would bump up against the "my kink is okay but yours isn't!" line, but I just can't wrap my head around why someone would want to have sex with a dead body. I don't get off on the idea of sucking someone's toe, but I can sort of understand it. But having sex with a dead body? *shudder*

[thistle-chaser.livejournal.com]

Innocent me? Squicked you? Ha ha! ;)

(Sorry!)

[fealu-bryne.livejournal.com]

When it comes right down to it, I guess it's the entire concept that just gets me. Risking, like Thistle said, sounding like I'm saying, "This fetish is okay, while this one's bad," I do nonetheless feel like there's some things that acceptable and others that just aren't. And it mostly comes down to concent. Sex is abused these days, in so many ways, and I won't bother getting into my personal views on that as many people would probably disagree with me anyway. But generally, the idea that people are so concerned with their own selfish pleasure that they would go to such dispicable lengths to achieve it boggles me. I think that's the heart of the whole matter.

Certain fetishes -- necrophilia, pedophilia, zoophilia, bestiality -- are just people so desperate to make themselves feel good that they go against the very fricking laws of nature. Maybe it's possible to view it as understandable, but when one side (alright, so this bars necrophilia) doesn't understand, or isn't capable of understanding what's going on to consent to it, there's something wrong.

As for this case, the concept that he's willing to have sex with a child is sickening. And chunk of dead meat or not, what kind of person is so eager or desperate to get themselves off that they're willing to stoop that low? "Okay, well, I can't get a real kid so I'll just pretend I have one!"

Maybe nobody's getting hurt in the act of necrophilia, but the idea's still revolting. Not able to get real sex, too obsessed to be satisfied with jerking off quietly at home...

Tell me something. Why is it even an issue? What's so incredibly fantastic about sex that people make it such a big deal? So it feels good. Eating a double fudge brownie topped with ice cream and chocolate sauce makes me feel good, yet you don't see me scouring the internet 24/7 to find recipes and pictures so I can sit around making dessert and pigging out all day long. So how come people do that with porn? And then regular porn gets old so they move on to more... interesting things. Fetish things. And that just leads to shit like this.

Will someone please just tell me why?

Okay, sorry. I wouldn't normally do something like this, but my poor teenage mind is too boggled to care at the moment...

Not to mention, I'm curious what sort of responses it might get.

[thistle-chaser.livejournal.com]

Eating a double fudge brownie topped with ice cream and chocolate sauce makes me feel good, yet you don't see me scouring the internet 24/7 to find recipes and pictures so I can sit around making dessert and pigging out all day long.


..I do believe I've found a new hobby.

[quasilemur.livejournal.com]

Ah, the ever-tricky issue of bestiality and consent. First off, no one's gonna say that Mr. Leg-Humping Doggy doesn't want it. But assuming you're referring to male human-female animal combos, I still have my doubts. Do you want to try to force a one-ton horse to do something it doesn't want to? Or how about trying to force a snarling, snapping dog with your dork hanging out like a snausage? Not likely.
The 'capability to provide consent' argument also doesn't really hold water in most cases...if you're dealing with a sexually mature animal, there's no saying it's not prepared for sex.

I'm not going to argue against the vilification of other people's kinks...No one's going to change anyone else's opinions, and most kink-bashers actually do enough damage to their own cases themselves. I will, however, take exception to your idea that pornography or fetish materials imply some deficiency in the viewer. If anything, the need to deny other people happiness (presuming no one's getting hurt without consent) is the real ill.

[quasilemur.livejournal.com]

but I think it could be a sign of some sort of mental or personality trait that we'd probably be better off not having walking around on the street and in the gene pool.

Where, oh, where do I begin on what I'd prune from the genome-at-large?

Though, to be serious, what you're saying is that we should execute or imprison people for deviant sexual practices, yes? *smirk* Nothing further.

[quasilemur.livejournal.com]

I seem to have neglected to make fun of you for the 'laws of nature' comment. Oh well, opportunity missed. You may continue to enjoy your air conditioning, automobiles, medicine, and living past the age of 35 without being mocked.

[peppygrowlithe.livejournal.com]

When the history books including this generation come around, the text will say, in proud, brilliant letters, that Arnold Schwarzenegger's greatest achievement in California was abolishing necrophilia.

People will probably re-elect him for it, too!

[thistle-chaser.livejournal.com]

*laughs* You're probably right. Ugh!