People suck... but Heroes makes it better (FFXI mostly)

[thistlechaser]

Horrible night, but for the last hour I watched Heroes (no spoilers) and it made it all better. Well, not all better, but at least I no longer feel like killing everyone. Yay no murder?

The game was rough, though half of it shouldn't have affected me:

First half: Spending 1.5 million for .3 skillup. >< While that's horrible horrible horrible it's not going to be exactly abnormal from here on out. That doesn't make it any less frustrating and painful though.

Second half: Caught a Besieged after Eco and Escort. (There had been one earlier in the night, but I wasn't in the mood so I went to Eco instead). People are So Fucking Stupid. Picture this:

Random players: lol wher da NMs at?
General #1: *dies because all the idiots are on the NM*
More players arrive: Where be da NMs?
General #2: *dies because the fucking idiots are all swooning over a NM*
More people: (Pos) NM (Can I have it?)
General #3: *dies because these people are too stupid to live*

I mean gods afuckingbove, why don't people think? "lol if we kill da nm we get more xp lol lol lol!". Yeah, and know what? If the generals die you'll get nothing and we'll lose the damned Candysense again.

You'd think our server had never seen a Besieged NM before. All the damned idiots ignored all the normal mobs to "lol (fighting right now!) NM! (pos) lol", and so the normal mobs swarmed over the generals.

I really hate to be "JP good, NA bad", but fucking hell, NAs really, really suck in cases like this. (No, JPs aren't perfect, but they're a hell of a lot better about this.)

It's a damned NM. You'll get 100-300 more XP for killing it. Is it worth making the Besieged last a half-hour longer and risking more generals?

Dammit. Now I want to kill people again. :P

Oh, and on the theme of idiots: This morning's conversation with a beggar. He doesn't have time to farm! He just wants to... Boy, isn't he going to be surprised! (Yeah, I could have extended the conversation, but I needed to do Hot&Cold so I could go to work.)

Comments

[draymor.livejournal.com]

80 exp/limit per NM, actually. About the same amount one gets (at 75) killing 2 lesser colibris.

[voidmagus.livejournal.com]

Heroes was pretty good. A bit of a twist, but not one I didn't see coming.

As for wanting to kill people again...a lengthy conversation with my more compassionate half (whose day job is domestic abuse/sexual assault counselor) yielded that I keep high expectations of my friends because if I don't (even if doing so leads me to constant disappointment), I will have deemed people unworthy of living.

As for the begger...At least not everyone in the game is like that. Look at Naldena - I give her more spells than she can carry, and she insists on paying me back. Good to know young'uns aren't all growing up bad.

[tacrozar.livejournal.com]

On Valefor, I've been in Besieged during JP time and Besieged lasts on average no longer than 45 minutes given a minimum of 400-500. All the mobs are killed quickly and efficiently. Even annoying mobs like the bomb type mobs and wamura type mobs are killed quickly. None of the generals die and usually, NMs are held until last. However, there usually is no bonus for killing any of the NMs so I usually average 1000 xp/is.

While if during NA time, Besieged will last up to 2hrs given the same 400-500 people within the zone. The very annoying mobs (boms, wamouras, scorpions) are held until very last and even then... idiots STILL concentrate on the NMs. Generals die VERY easily even with 700 in the zone at times. These idiots at least know to try and kite monsters away from the Astral candy-sense when all the generals have died. But what confuses me is that why can't these NA idiots understand that by protecting the Generals and by killing as many monsters as quickly as possible lessens the chance that any prisoner will be taken. XP/IS usually has a bonus so I get 1080. I have to say, I have seen Medusa and Gurlurfur killed during NA times and never in JP times. But the extra 200 points isn't worth an extra 1.5 hours.

[gbeans.livejournal.com]

I catch a lot of the JP time Besieges and that's pretty much how it plays out on Midgard as well. The exception is that I've seen the main NMs mowed over during JP Besieges and it was darn speedy about it too. The NA prime time Besieges very rarely hit zone cap (if ever? I think the most I've seen recently is 600-650ish in zone). During the JP time Besieges you better have your tail parked in zone well beforehand 'cause you're not getting in once it's started. This is especially true when it starts overlapping the EU time as well.

[achika-soladia.livejournal.com]

I think your beggar idiot was someone's mule. =o Mostly judging that from the name. I don't give money to anyone, but I will offer tips on how to make it. If they don't want advice, they can suffer. Though I seem to buy worldpasses for people too often when they ask. >_> Dunno why that is.

I'm so stubborn about giving money to new players that I don't even give my own new characters (When I started Achika and Paksenarrion) gil. =O In the case with Paks though, I started crafting so that was a reason to give gil.

And after I realized that the NMs take too damn long to kill, I kept going after the regular mobs. Works well, 1K exp/IS keeps me set for a little bit of time. Need to do more Besieged. Curse my availability.

[calandra.livejournal.com]

I'm usually a melee at beseiged (mnk75 or blm66 - I cure a lot).

So my choices are:

Fight an NM and get plastered by the AoEs, even if I don't get hate. Medusa may look cute, but she hits *hard*.

or /assist a General and let him (or her) take the brunt. Not to mention, as long as the General's alive, it doesn't matter what the other mobs are doing. They could kite the NM's for the entire time, really.

Oh, the NM's are fun, for bragging rights, and sometimes it's better to take them down then to let then run around lose, but I'd rather go in with a team (I'm pretty lucky at finding friends in Beseiged) and work our way through mobs in an organized manner.

[thistle-chaser.livejournal.com]

Fight an NM and get plastered by the AoEs, even if I don't get hate. Medusa may look cute, but she hits *hard*.

That's another thing. I have a ton of acc, yet I have issues hitting NMs. What are these people with crappy armor and no food going to do? Spend an hour fanning it? And the AoEs are insane, especially Medusa's. 800+, plus petra, over half of Parade? No thanks!

[thistle-chaser.livejournal.com]

Yeah, usually I'll give people ideas on how to make money, but that guy annoyed me.

Mostly judging that from the name.

There have been some very odd mule/new people names popping up in the last week. Randomfart followed Chaser around for an hour or so. c.c

[thistle-chaser.livejournal.com]

Agreed, to all of that.

I have to say, I have seen Medusa and Gurlurfur killed during NA times and never in JP times. But the extra 200 points isn't worth an extra 1.5 hours.

Exactly. Medusa was killed in a NA time Besieged, but the whole thing took three hours. These people who would bitch about getting less than 10K/hr in an XP party spend two+ hours more for 200 XP? *holds head*

[thistle-chaser.livejournal.com]

Heroes was pretty good. A bit of a twist, but not one I didn't see coming.

Yeah. It was Hiro who made the ep for me though. <3 him so much!

As for the begger...At least not everyone in the game is like that. Look at Naldena

Heck yeah. It just boggles me though; where do people get off thinking they should be given something for free? I know it happens RL as well, but man, why won't people just work for what they want?

[thistle-chaser.livejournal.com]

Yep. And these same people bitch if they get less than 10K/hr in an XP party... yet they'll spend two more hours in Besieged for a 100 or so more XP.

Bah.

[kamalloy.livejournal.com]

I don't think it's the XP so much as the "Hey, I'm going to help kill a big NM" feeling. It's an e-peen thing. ^_~

Personally, I don't care what I'm fighting. I just follow my party's lead in Beseiged. Teamwork is fun. ^^

[calandra.livejournal.com]

Indeed. I have decent accuracy, plus Focus, but even if I swap in all my +acc gear, I don't hit very often. And not for much damage.

If I fight the normal mobs, I feel like I'm doing some good.

[tacrozar.livejournal.com]

That is the mentality of all NA: "I want to show off my epenis". I rather just kill the monsters and get the quick 1000 IS then continue on with what I'm doing. Not spend 2hrs hearing idiots become amateur armchair generals. If I wanted to do that, I'd go play Starcraft or something similar.

There is no "teamwork" in besieged. I have gone around without a PT and pretty much done my own thing. As a tank, I don't have to provoke (and MANY DO NOT). As DD, I can skill up all my weapons (and MANY DO!). As a mage, I can skill up my weapons (and MANY DO!). All in all, there is no teamwork.

I think BLM is the easiest of all the jobs. Because the way SE programmed the monsters, I can -ga a group of them around a general. I usually will not get hate (even with +enmity merits) after I've exhausted my 700 mp pool, manafont x2 (with revitalizer), wizards drink + mega elixer + hi-elixier + ether potion. That alone is usually enough fro me to get max or close to max. And I do this usually before even the first mobs are dead. My two favorite places to do this is upstairs where Mihli is at and near Najaleith.

[kamalloy.livejournal.com]

By "teamwork," I mean that I'm hanging out with my party (LS folks) and going after the same mobs they do. That's all.

I've tried doing my own thing, but it's not all that much fun for me. YMMV.

[thistle-chaser.livejournal.com]

Yes, exactly. "Who cares about everyone else, I'm going to show off!"

[thistle-chaser.livejournal.com]

I enjoy soloing in Besieged a lot. Almost the only time I get a party is when LS people are there, and then it's only to be social. As DRK/WHM, I can take care of myself pretty well.

Twice I joined a random party because I was bored, and was sorry before the beastmen even attacked. Every time someone lol'ed I wanted to stab them.