Sisterhood of the Traveling Pantsuit!

[thistlechaser]

I wish I had realized that Hillary's speech tonight was going to be broadcast (on all stations!). I've only caught the last 10 minutes of it, but wow, I'm quite impressed. :D Both in what she's saying and how she's saying it.

I can't believe I'm actually getting excited about political stuff. After eight years of nothing but bone-deep disgust, it's kind of nice to feel some hope. :D

She really is quite a good speaker. :D <3 Hillary

Comments

[ani-mama.livejournal.com]

Bah...I'm still ticked that she didn't get the nomination. Or the VP slot. I think she is heck of a lot more qualified than Obama. Rant rant rant....

[thistle-chaser.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I know. There are arguments pro and con on that, but I would have had no issues at all with her in either position. It would have been darned cool. :/

Oh well, so long as we don't get Bush Twin, I'll be happy enough.

[naikitty.livejournal.com]

I really fail to see why you people insist on calling McCain a Bush twin. He's quite a bit more liberal than Bush ever was. Thus why he's having such a damn hard time actually getting the conservative vote.

I know, blahblah, I know nothing, I voted for Bush so my opinion is dumb. :P

[thistle-chaser.livejournal.com]

In 2008, he voted 100% same as Bush.
In 2007, he voted 96% (or 98%, I forget this morning) same as Bush.

That sounds pretty much Bush-twin to me. :)

<3 you, even if Bush is your fault. ;) :D

[thistle-chaser.livejournal.com]

And unrelated to your comment, though it came from the same news story I got those figures from, McCain also got a zero on womens' issues (from some the main woman voting group, they named them, but I really try not to listen to these things more than I have to). I know that you're anti-choice, but "womans' issues" covered everything including things you must care about, like health issues and getting the same pay for the same work.

[naikitty.livejournal.com]

I'm not anti-choice, I'm pro-life in most situations aside from incest and rape. If the woman was pregnant against her will or was threatened with lethal health problems due to it (not that 'depression' nonsense), they should have the choice to abort. :P OMG I'd support an abortion end of the world!

Also, I looked up the issue you were talking about. He got a 'zero' because he's pro-life and doesn't support using insurance or government funding to provide prescription birth control. That's not women's issues, that's wanting to keep people from depending on companies for what they should be responsible for themselves. I saw absolutely nothing about him being against women getting the same pay for the same work. Link me to where you got that.

[naikitty.livejournal.com]

Oh psh. X3 I vote the same way as a lot of crazy rightwing nuts, that doesn't make me one (you shush, you know I'm not :E). It just means the other option didn't fly right with me.

[naikitty.livejournal.com]

Ah, I found a bit. 'John McCain has cited Alito and Roberts as the kinds of justices he would look to put on the Supreme Court. Yet Alito and Roberts have awful records on women, and not just concerning abortion. Here's one example: both of those justices voted with the majority in the notorious Ledbetter pay discrimination case -- that's the case where the Court outrageously decided, contrary to long-accepted practice, that female employees only had 180 days after payroll decisions were made to file an anti-discrimination suit. And that 180 day period holds whether or not the party who was discriminated against even knew at the time that she was making less than an equally qualified man!'

Is that the issue? I don't see what's wrong with it. o.o 180 days is a damn long time, and it's not saying women can't have equal pay at all. Plus that's the voting record of judges he'd pick, not his own. I still can't find anything where he's on record against anything but abortion and insurance-funded birthcontrol. Oh, and actually suggesting to teens to maybe not have sex, omg. :E

[spenceraloysius.livejournal.com]

I loved Hillary's speech!

[jehryn.livejournal.com]

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[thistle-chaser.livejournal.com]

Heh!

[thistle-chaser.livejournal.com]

Same! :D And I'm looking forward to tonight's, too!

[thistle-chaser.livejournal.com]

o.O Voting for something means you support it. If you don't like either option, you could just... not vote on it. Why would you vote for something you don't support/believe in?

[thistle-chaser.livejournal.com]

I'm not anti-choice, I'm pro-life in most situations aside from incest and rape. If the woman was pregnant against her will or was threatened with lethal health problems due to it (not that 'depression' nonsense), they should have the choice to abort. :P OMG I'd support an abortion end of the world!

So a woman could have a choice... when you feel it's right. That sounds pretty anti-choice to me!

doesn't support using insurance or government funding to provide prescription birth control. That's not women's issues, that's wanting to keep people from depending on companies for what they should be responsible for themselves

Wait, wait. As a side issue, are you seeing any sort of logic in that? You know how much drugs cost? You're against the majority of abortions and you don't want to help people get birth control... so what are you expecting people to do? If your answer is 'just don't have sex' I'm going to have to laugh at you. :P

Link me to where you got that.

Sorry, it was on the radio, so no links. That's the only reason I heard it, too. Trapped in my car and couldn't get away! Hands were too busy to change the station.

[naikitty.livejournal.com]

There's other options aside from abortion, there's plenty of families that can't have kids that want to adopt, for example. And yes, I'm going to say 'don't have sex' if you can't afford the consequences. :P Or do some other variant of sex that doesn't require guy bits in places that can get girls pregnant.

No, I don't see any logic in providing birth control. If insurance companies want to do it privately and charge a premium like they do for other medications (which is dumb to me 'cause people CAN live without sex, they can't without other necessary medication), they should be able to do it. But I don't want any government hand in it at all. I'm not handing out my taxdollars so people can fuck like bunnies when birthcontrol isn't even 100% effective in the first place. ;3

I would like links if you do happen across any, though. I like seeing compared sources to keep facts straight. If McCain -is- against women getting equal pay, I want to know about it. But frankly the birth control thing is such an old debate it doesn't matter, and that's the only 'anti-woman' thing I could find about him.