Quicker post than I had intended! (WoW, RP)

[thistlechaser]

First off: Thanks to everyone who left kind and helpful comments yesterday! I was intending to have today as a "day off" so plenty of time for replying and all that, but it turned out to be a jam-packed day instead. :D Tomorrow!

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Eee eee eee! Hee hee hee! What a busy busy busy day! And what a redundant redundant redundant post so far! :P

First thing in the morning as I was happily cooking my bacon-breakfast (mmm, bacon) D asked me if I wanted to do a "Kara run". While I kind of boggled as to what Kara might be, I said yes! And eee it was amazing! But let me backtrack a moment:

Remember how I said we did Dynamis - Tavnazia in FFXI the other day? Tavnazia was supposed to be this special zone, more wacky than any other Dynamis zone, dream-like, nightmare-like. How did they accomplish that? By taking the same exact Tavnazia zone and adding Summerfest and Christmas music to it. The same exact zone you see day in and day out, and add music that is amazingly old. And that's supposed to make it special.

Karazhan was special. Karazhan was amazing. Karazhan was the dream-like zone that Tavnazia wishes it could have been. "Human" chess! The pieces were alive and we got stuck in them! And you had to move as chess pieces do and fight! That alone would count for the coolest thing ever, but there was something even better! The opera house! :D :D :D There was a play in the middle of our raid! :D We got Romulo & Julianne, but there were two other spoofy ones as well! (I'd love to have seen the Big Bad Wolf one, but I bet the Oz one would have been great, too!) And all the dragons! And we shot horses (which doesn't sound as fun as it was!). (And eh, I just just *I* shot horses, the others hacked them to death. :P )

The drops were totally secondary to all of that... though my new bow is so big! And cool! Ha ha!

I got a crapton of stuff, enough so that I'm not even sure what I should be using. (Imagine, I went from all greens to multiple purple options per slot!) I might have to post here for opinions, because I'd hate to vendor the wrong stuff.

All in all, I felt more comfortable on this run. It helped that we were just using tabbing to target (I think everyone was 80 except me, so it didn't much matter what I shot).

And how's this for a trial by fire? After that, we did another one! *pantpant* I thought I was going to fall over dead! Or my head might explode from learning new stuff. :P

I kind of can't remember where the second one was, but I got a wolf puppy pet from it! Yay! (It was a lower level (55-65?) one for lower level guild people, so again targeting wasn't a big deal. The 80 paladin just gathered everything and I helped pick stuff off.)

As far as I can tell, I made only one "mistake" during the runs* -- on the second one I kept passing instead of greed'ing. (That doesn't count as a mistake to me, but others said it was! :P ) Even though it had been explained to me on what I should lot when it came to greens/greed, we had been mid-raid when it was talked about so I couldn't really concentrate on understanding. Something about if there's an enchanger (dechanger? something....) in the group I should pass on (something -- bind on... pick up? equip? or something totally different?) so they could de-something it instead of (me vendoring it?). So I decided just to pass on stuff so I'd be safe rather than sorry. :P I need to ask about that again before I do another of these.

(* I strongly suspect I'm making some Hunter-job mistakes without realizing it. I'm not exactly sure how I'd go about finding them out though. Maybe if people on my flist who do WoW stuff with me can poke me if they see me doing someting wrong? I won't be offended at all! :) )

(Edit: Wait wait! I made a second mistake! I mis-lotted on something (need, but I hadn't noticed it was a plate thingie), but I stuck it into the guild bank for someone else to take, so hopefully that makes up for it. :D )

Between those two I worked on first aid (up to 300), so I can get that accomplishment for having all three at grand master.

I have a bunch of screenshots, but no time to edit them tonight. :D

RP: I didn't lose Thistle! Yay! I can generally only play one character at a time, and I've been playing Haken so darned much that Thistle's voice was gone. D asked me to play on-MUX tonight, and after hemming and hawing a lot, I agreed. Turned out it worked perfectly fine!

It's kind of odd how polar opposites my two alts are. Haken is deadly serious and deadly-deadly, hates everyone, zero to no ability to fit into the world, and his expressions vary between a frown and a scowl. Thistle is bouncy! And he smiles all the time! And all I have to do is type like this! And it works for him! And he's smiling! And he's happy! And eek he blushed! And he trusts everyone! And smile! Smile! Smile!

And now *I'm* bouncy and it's bedtime. :P Not very helpful!

Comments

[tamd.livejournal.com]

Alright, reason why you should greed is simply because of gold. So if nobody needs it, everyone can greed, and then sell it for gold. Over time, the amount actually builds up and help pay for repairs, potion, arrows, etc etc. If everyone greeds, there's really no hard feelings.

Now if it's a purple, people who need it, as in to upgrade their equipment, profession etc gets priority. If there's an enchanter, he/she can disenchant a green equipment or higher for fragments that are used to enchant armor and weapons. Purple equipment will always disenchant into a purple fragment, they're not usually soulbound, so an enchanter disenchants it and give it to the person who rolls higher(you can sell it in the AH) or they'll put it into the guild vault for future uses.

So priority is usually something like this,

Person who needs the upgrade -> Person who needs to upgrade their off-spec-> Person who can disenchant it -> If all above fails, everyone greeds to vendor it.

Hitting greed won't hurt since Need gets first priority. If you don't get it, you don't and if you do, that's one less copper to get your epic flight.

[tamd.livejournal.com]

That's a really hot bow by the way, do you know how many times people had to grind for that in the past? Many.

Attach a really good scope and you'll prove cows are actaully predators.

[thistle-chaser.livejournal.com]

Thank you! And yes, the other Hunter in the group was making envy noises at my luck. :D And I put on a scope yesterday! Yay!

The only putting-things-on-my-armor stuff I have left to do is to look up putting (gems?) onto my boots. It has slots for two colored thingies that I have to check into.

[thistle-chaser.livejournal.com]

he/she can disenchant a green equipment or higher for fragments that are used to enchant armor and weapons

Semi-related: I think there's an enchanter stalking me. :P I noticed all the greens I list at the AH keep getting bought by the same person -- five of my greens up right now have him as the highest bidder.

Alright, reason why you should greed is simply because of gold. So if nobody needs it, everyone can greed, and then sell it for gold.

That makes sense, and I see that it's fair, but it still makes me uncomfortable. :P If it weren't an all-guild group I'd be more fine with it, but I hate winning out on things against guildmates! I do like gold however, so I suppose I may get over this in time. ;)

Thanks for the info! It makes lots of sense!

[doxxxicle.livejournal.com]

The whole need/greed thing depends very much on the group you're running with. How our guild used to do it was that we'd have the loot setting on Group Loot so that everybody would see the need/greed window and everybody would pass on bind-on-pickup items and bind-on-equip blues/epics but greed the bind-on-equip greens. Then for each item that was passed on, we'd ask who needed it and if there were multiple people they would use /roll to decide who got it.

However, we recently changed our system slightly. Now we run with the loot setting on Master Looter and we have the Loot Master call out for need rolls and greed rolls, and then they assign the loot to the person who wins. We use a mod that I wrote to help track the rolls and remember who won what so that if two or more people roll for an item, it shows the person who has won the fewest number of items so far.

Anyway, just make a point to ask what the loot rules are for the run beforehand.

[doxxxicle.livejournal.com]

Oops, forgot to mention that in either system, if nobody rolled need or greed on the item, it would be given to an enchanted to disenchant and the resultant materials placed in the guild bank.

[thistle-chaser.livejournal.com]

Wow, that sounds like a good system! I'm highly unlikely to ever do runs with a PUG (random people are scary in both games!), so as long as I know the guild rules, I'll be pretty comfortable. :D

[naikitty.livejournal.com]

I'll explain our lotting 'rules'. Even if they're basically what they said. ;p

Greens: Greed all armor, if someone mentions they could use it, we usually trade. Don't greed crafting recipes unless you can use it. (If they're BOP [bind on pick-up] then they usually are needed by Enchanters, but I can't recall any BOP greens...)

Blues/Purples: Go to the people who can use them. If no one can use them as an upgrade for main or off-spec, they go to an Enchanter to be disenchanted for mats that will be put in the guild bank. :3

[thistle-chaser.livejournal.com]

Oh god, that's so simple! So much easier to understand when we're not killing dragons at the same time. :D

So green I can always greed without exception, blue/purple will always be either need or pass, never greed... assuming we have an enchanter in the group? If there's no enchanter, then greed or still pass?

[naikitty.livejournal.com]

Green armor you greed. ;3 Green patterns you leave to the people that can use them~

And yeah, pretty much about the blue/purple. If it's not an upgrade, pass on it. If there's no enchanter, everyone can /roll for vendoring rights, but we almost always have at least one enchanter around...