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Druid 23. It got somewhat better at 20 (when I hit things, now they eventually die! Yay!), but I still take damage way too quickly, especially if I have more than one mob on me. Oddly (and sadly) the only effective questing I can do are green quests. Now and then I successfully do one at my own level, but generally I die endlessly on them. I boggle at how much I die. Thank god I can't delevel.

PS: Prowl should be 100% effective.

On my main, I wasted 28 days for nothing. Stupid Argent Tournament. I can't joust at all, so I figured I'd do the 'kill 10 scourge' daily quest for 25 days and get the 25 seals I need that way (three missed days in the middle of that). Got my 25 seals, tried to turn them in... and I have to beat some champ to level up. BLAH. I went 1/200 on beating the three little ones you have to do (and note that's 1/200, not 3/200, I never totally succeeded, only killed one of the three). I haven't even bothered trying to kill the champ yet, since I'm sure he'll be harder than the three little ones... being champ and all...

All in all: Blah.

Date: 2009-06-19 01:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thistle-chaser.livejournal.com
I keep my two buffs up. Stay in cat form. Spam claw whenever it's got enough energy, and do the DoT one (rip?) ASAP first time, then only again if it wears.

If my HP gets to about half, I hit my biggest curing macro (letting the mob hit me at the time, since it'll cure me for more than 50% and I can take a few hits before dying) then back to cat form.

If my HP gets really low, I root it and then move back and heal.

I think that's about it? I don't nuke so much or switch to bear and back to cat mid-battle because I worry about running out of mana and not being able to switch back to cat. (The coming expansion will help with that somewhat.)

Am I missing something big/important? I had read tons of hunter guides while leveling that, but I haven't checked any on druid. I probably should!

Date: 2009-06-19 04:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kelen.livejournal.com
Get the Glyph of Rake, if you don't already have it. Far as I'm concerned it's the best glyph you get for leveling. It makes it so that mobs don't run away. >.< So hate that.

Anyway! Hit them with Faerie Fire, which I use for pulling a lot since it's distance, rake, claw, claw, rake if needed, then rip. Normally I only wait for 3 combo points before using rip, but sometimes get in 4-5.

Beyond that, do you have Ravage yet? This one is awesome, but takes a little work. Can only be used while prowl is active, and from behind the mob. So learn to stealth up, and hit a mob with Ravage from behind. It can knock 1/4-1/2 health off a mob to start the fight. <3 Follow this up with Faerie Fire, and Tiger's Fury, then settle into the normal Rake, Claw, Rip Stuff.

Date: 2009-06-19 04:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pomr.livejournal.com
There's also an addon for DPS druids -- what's it called [livejournal.com profile] kelen, Face Mauler? =)

Date: 2009-06-19 04:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kelen.livejournal.com
Face Mauler, while awesome, doesn't work well at low levels. :)

Date: 2009-06-19 04:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kelen.livejournal.com
Also! Make sure to put talent points into Feral Instinct and Feral Swiftness. They will help LOADS while trying to stealth around.

Oh! ..I keep remembering things. n.n Buy agility gear. Don't be afraid to ask us to run you through instances too. Enchant your gear. You've a level 80, so can afford to fund your druid. <3 The gear WILL make a huge difference. Like I always enchant my weapons with +25 agi (After level 35 anyway.), but there are other things you can get. Extra health, a ton of extra armor.. you can pimp yourself out and make leveling that much easier.

Date: 2009-06-20 01:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thistle-chaser.livejournal.com
Feral Instinct and Feral Swiftness

Got those maxed!

And yeah, Nai took me through WC the other day. :D When I get higher, I'll nudge to do another one! <3 Thanks!

And make sure you poke me if you have a low level who needs it, too! Thester can earn his keep!

Date: 2009-06-19 04:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thistle-chaser.livejournal.com
Oh! I forgot about Faerie Fire. Yes, I use that to pull, and hit it even if I don't need to pull.

So learn to stealth up, and hit a mob with Ravage from behind. It can knock 1/4-1/2 health off a mob to start the fight.

...Oh wow! I have it, but hadn't tried it yet since the whole 'get behind it' seemed to be a pain. I'll try that today! I don't think I have Tiger's Fury yet, but I'll add that in once I do.

Thanks!

Date: 2009-06-20 12:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thistle-chaser.livejournal.com
Got Glyph of Rake tonight and hit 24 so I could use it! YAY them not running away! I hate that so much... especially when they bring back a group of mobs with them.

And boo, Ravage is 32, so that's a bit away! I got Tiger's Fury tonight though, yay!

Date: 2009-06-19 04:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doxxxicle.livejournal.com
Don't forget that the belt you're currently wearing has an on-use effect of healing you for a fair bit. Not sure what the cooldown is but it's a better alternative to popping out into caster form to heal yourself.

Also, more stam gear. Try to get "of the Monkey" gear. Since you're taking damage and not a pet, you have to consider survivability somewhat when choosing gear.

Try to find a two-handed mace or staff with the highest DPS. The DPS is converted to attack power in feral forms.

Date: 2009-06-19 04:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doxxxicle.livejournal.com
Also, if you do need a heal more than the belt's on-use, try using Rejuvenation instead of something like Healing Touch. Since it's instant cast, it won't take forever to cast with the mob beating on you. If you need a bigger heal, try Regrowth since it's faster cast, will heal you for a nice chunk and give you a heal-over-time to tide you over once you're back in cat form.

Date: 2009-06-20 01:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thistle-chaser.livejournal.com
Ah, yes! I do tend to forget my belt. Oh, huh, you can move it into a button. That's handy! It'll remind me to use it more.

Try to find a two-handed mace or staff with the highest DPS. The DPS is converted to attack power in feral forms

I had been using a two-handed one for a long while, but I got a single handed blue from WC that has better DPS, so I'm sticking with that for now.

Date: 2009-06-19 06:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firebyrd.livejournal.com
Yeah, as far as cat form goes, you're missing using your finishing move. Wait until you have some combo points and make sure to use a finishing move. It'll kill the mobs faster which means less damage to you. Also, you should be attempting to stealth and use one of the from behind moves to start out your battle when using cat form. Adding those two moves to your rotation will make a big difference in how fast stuff goes down.

If you're still having trouble, you need to just use bear form, which has more armor and health. There's a glyph you can get that will make one of the main moves (maul or swipe, I can't remember which at the moment) hit two enemies at once which helps a /ton/. I don't know what you've been doing with your talent points, but be sure to put them into feral (respec if needed). There's one talent that makes the move I mentioned above (maul or swipe) go down to 10 rage to use, so you can use it a lot more often. When in bear form, be sure to use demoralizing roar too, as that lowers surrounding mobs' attack power (just be careful when using it not to pull neighboring yellow mobs).

Additionally, if you haven't already, I'd send some money over from your main and make sure you've got decent armor.

If these suggestions don't help, let me know and I'll go play my druid for a bit so I can tell you exactly what I do, because it's seemed pretty easy to me and I've been tanking regularly since level 18 or so.
Edited Date: 2009-06-19 06:52 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-06-20 01:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thistle-chaser.livejournal.com
Thanks for all the info!

All my points were going into feral, yep!

It'll kill the mobs faster which means less damage to you. Also, you should be attempting to stealth and use one of the from behind moves to start out your battle when using cat form.

Yeah, I only have Shread for now, the better one is 32, but I'm practicing with that!

Thanks for all the hints!

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