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I should probably just dig up the post I made about Kill Bill and stick it here. Mr. Tarantino, I don't think I like you very much. Are you trying to make me feel bad for the Nazis? Check out this trailer and tell me:



I can't put into words how sick that makes me. Yes, Nazis did very bad things, we all know that. But did your mother never tell you 'Two wrongs don't make a right'? (God, look at me, this movie is making me defend them...)

PS: If you pronounce 'Nazi' as 'nasty', I have a really hard time not judging you.

Date: 2009-07-06 03:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] avocado-love.livejournal.com
*Watches it*

Yeah... no. Murder is murder, even if you are doing it to sicko's.

Date: 2009-07-06 05:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thistle-chaser.livejournal.com
Yes. It scares me that people might think this is a good thing that the characters are doing...

Date: 2009-07-06 04:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deadsong.livejournal.com
...yyyyeah, when I first saw that trailer in theaters, my first though was "I don't care how bad Nazis were, this is crossing a major line and treading on the wrong toes."

Date: 2009-07-06 04:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mark356.livejournal.com
That was exactly my thought too.

Date: 2009-07-06 05:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thistle-chaser.livejournal.com
Glad I'm not alone. I totally agree.

Date: 2009-07-06 10:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firebyrd.livejournal.com
Wow. That turned my stomach and I could probably be considered fairly hawkish.

Date: 2009-07-06 06:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thistle-chaser.livejournal.com
Makes me sad that there will be people totally into this, cheering the 'good guys' on, etc. :/

Date: 2009-07-06 07:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firebyrd.livejournal.com
For all that I think deposing Saddam Hussein was a good thing and that he was a rabid dog that needed to be put down, I am absolutely, 100% against torture, and that's what that movie seems to be espousing. It's disgusting.

Date: 2009-07-06 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thistle-chaser.livejournal.com
Fully agreed. Winning a war/battle isn't enough, not if you're a worse person than the people you're fighting...

Date: 2009-07-06 01:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veloxe.livejournal.com
I'm confused...Is this supposed to be a comedy or a gritty war movie?

Cause looking at a bunch of the characters and then Hitler at the end it certainly looks like they are trying to put comedy into it but then they are talking about ripping Nazi's apart and getting scalps and stuff.

I think it's to easy now adays to go "Nazi's evil, kill they ass" and then make a movie around that. I mean when I read All Quiet on the Western Front for a book report in grade 12 it seriously kicked my ass. I know it was WWI but I still feel its lesson can be applied to WWII since not all Nazi's were doing all the evil horrible things that the propaganda makes them out to doing (although a small group DID do those things). I'd much more like to see more books/movies follow All Quiet on the Western Front's lead.

Date: 2009-07-06 06:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thistle-chaser.livejournal.com
The whole Hitler thing confused me as well. I can only assume it's meant to dehumanize the Nazis -- it's okay to torture and murder them if they're not people!

Totally agreed. Making them all into the bad guys is the easy route, the cheap route... but it's also the route to selling many movie tickets. :/

Date: 2009-07-06 07:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veloxe.livejournal.com
Plus if you made a movie like All Quiet on the Western Front but for WWII and had Germans killing Allied Forces (regardless of how good a point you could make about "See they are people as well, war is bad!") your career would be destroyed, you'd be disowned by a large group of your peers, you'd get huge numbers of death threats, probably get attacked, maybe even end up dead because of it. At least, if it was made in America that's probably what would happen. Definitely wouldn't go over too well in France or Britain either.

Date: 2009-07-06 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thistle-chaser.livejournal.com
Blah. You're probably totally right.

Date: 2009-07-07 12:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] voidmagus.livejournal.com
I once read an article about how a great deal of cinema is that way. Nazis, DrugDealers, Orcs...every genre has a group where its basically a-ok to slaughter them en masse, and stack the bodies up like piles of firewood. There's a good reason pre-WW2 germany saw an entire nation in thrall of a few charismatic individuals -- humans like finding heroes, and cheering them on while they mow through crowds of The Enemy.

Date: 2009-07-07 12:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thistle-chaser.livejournal.com
humans like finding heroes, and cheering them on while they mow through crowds of The Enemy.

Yeah. This actually reminded me of 300 for that reason. Small group of "heroes" killing large number of what we are supposed to accept as less-than-human people...

Date: 2009-07-07 12:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] citizenbleys.livejournal.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO5WoLnOOlU

Date: 2009-07-07 12:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thistle-chaser.livejournal.com
Ha! *pats those Nazis* :D

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