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Perhaps I was too hard on this summer's GI Joe movie. I'm rewatching the original cartoon series and it's just... gah. I feel so bad about it, because at the time it aired I deeply loved it.

Episode one: Cobra's plan is to set up a grid that will stop all electricity on the planet. This will, somehow, allow them to take over the world.

The plan: Attack the space shuttle. While the battle is going on, they use a pair of hands made out of beams of light to open a hatch on the shuttle to put a box in. Because I'm sure the space shuttle has tons of unlocked hatches.

This box is no small box! In it are four men, four personal vehicles, and a collection of monsters. Yes, monsters. Little creatures called "Fatal Fuzzies" that start out looking cute (one of the female Joes hugs one) and, when a whistle is blown, they transform into eight foot tall, fire breathing, English-speaking monsters able to use weapons (guns and whips). Okay, stop right here. So Cobra has the scientific know-how and power to do some serious genetic work... strong enough to make monsters that transform from two foot tall cute things to eight foot tall monsters at the sound of a whistle being blown. I'm sorry, but why aren't they ruling the world now? Why not just release a bunch of these monsters instead of attempting the illogical plan of blocking all electric power from working?

For lord knows what reason, Snakeyes the ninja has a timber wolf. It not only follows him like a dog, it can do any human task (climb a ladder, pump on one of those railway hand-pumping car things, and save a guy's life all in the first ep). In this first ep Snakeyes and Shipwreck are together, so we get to see a lot of the Timber the wolf and Polly the parrot. I swear to god, this parrot is smarter than the two men put together. Of course it talks like a person, and it, too, saves their life.

What does the parrot save them from? All Cobra workers (working on making the cubes needed to stop the electricity) have to go through a voice scanning thing to go to work. They have to say a long bit "Hail Cobra Commander! The great snake rules forever!" or something along those lines. It's not enough to just get the wording right, Shipwreck can't get the tones perfect, so two walls full of spikes and 10 saw blades through the floor come at them as he frantically retries the phrase. Finally Polly the parrot gets it right. Now think about that for a moment. You have thousands of Cobra workers -- probably the lowest ranking of them all, just physical labor people. People at my job, high tech and highly educated people, have trouble with a badge system to get in the doors. You're going to expect these little workers to not just remember a multi-sentence pass-phrase, but to get the tone exactly right? Why isn't the floor covered in blood where all the workers who failed the phrase got killed?

But that's hardly the worst of the painful logic bits. At one point a Cobra on the ground says something. A Joe flying in a fighter jet overhead hears him and responds... then swoops down and cuts the tank in half with the jet's wing. *pulls hair out*

Then there are the little things. Two Joes sneaking up on one Cobra guy, intending to shoot him. Right before they fire, they yell their battle cry "Yo Joe!", which of course gives the Cobra guy heads-up on the sneak attack... *facepalms*

There's an amusing bit where a captain won't let the female Joes onto his ship because women are bad luck at sea. (How well would that fly in a cartoon today? Ha ha.)

All this is in the very first ep. I'm not going to stop watching it, even though it's so very painful. Embarrassing, too. For the longest time, I thought this was the best thing to ever be shown on TV... (At least I was a young kid when I thought that! Gah!)

Date: 2009-09-17 07:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pomr.livejournal.com
LOL. =)

I had a similar reaction to Speed Racer -- loved it when I was growing up, then watched an ep a few years ago and wondered what was in the water I was drinking then. =)

Date: 2009-09-17 08:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thistle-chaser.livejournal.com
I always say "kids are stupid" and I never exclude myself from that! I almost want to rewatch my other beloved childhood shows to see how bad they seem now. :P

Date: 2009-09-17 08:41 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] teslanomaly
ROTFLMAO!

Date: 2009-09-17 08:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thistle-chaser.livejournal.com
Hee, glad you liked it! I really wanted to do it with screenshots, but I don't have Photoshop here at work...

Date: 2009-09-17 09:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kamalloy.livejournal.com
When I was little, I wanted the bad guys to win in my cartoons because the good guys were stupid. Here, it seems like neither side should be winning. ;p

Date: 2009-09-17 09:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thistle-chaser.livejournal.com
*laughs* Oh yes, I was a total Cobra fan. However, in this case, you're right!

Date: 2009-09-18 09:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quistie.livejournal.com
To be fair, neither side was winning. Sure, the Joes keep on stopping all those crazy schemes, but they never succeed well enough to prevent the Cobra from launching its next evil plan. They truly deserve each other.

Date: 2009-09-19 05:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thistle-chaser.livejournal.com
*laughs* It fits! I noticed something watching this time. When they have a "gun" battle they never, ever change where they aim (easy to see since the shots are visible laser rays).

"Dang! I missed him! Shot hit about a foot to the left! ...I'll just keep shooting that same exact spot, maybe he'll move into it!"

Date: 2009-09-18 12:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firebyrd.livejournal.com
Hey, the parrot thing isn't so far off! It sounds like my birds are smarter than all of the characters /and/ the writers of G.I. Joe put together! ;)

Rewatching beloved childhood shows is usually a descent into madness or hilarity. Watching an episode of Care Bears a few years ago, I laughed until I cried at an episode where a kid is willing to help Professor Coldheart make the whole world into cement so she can skate everywhere. After his cement-spreading airplane passes and area, there's a montage showing people picnicking on cement, trying to swim in cement pools with no water (which is really a WTF given that pools tend to be made of it anyway!), all sorts of things. The girl at one point says, "Anyone who likes concrete is a friend of mine!" So freaking bad.

That's why shows like Animaniacs that were actually smart were so beloved. Parents could let their kids watch the shows without wanting to put a bullet in their brains.

Date: 2009-09-18 04:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thistle-chaser.livejournal.com
It sounds like my birds are smarter than all of the characters /and/ the writers of G.I. Joe put together! ;)

Ha! That wouldn't surprise me!

That's why shows like Animaniacs that were actually smart were so beloved. Parents could let their kids watch the shows without wanting to put a bullet in their brains.

Wish there had been more shows like Animaniacs... I should add that to my list of things to rewatch!

Date: 2009-09-18 07:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firebyrd.livejournal.com
You should rewatch it. It's still great, and if anything, it's funnier as an adult as you catch a lot more cultural references.

Date: 2009-09-18 01:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ani-mama.livejournal.com
Dude, do NOT try to analyze those Saturday morning cartoons. That way lies madness.

I just draw them, collect my check, and move on...XD

Date: 2009-09-18 04:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thistle-chaser.livejournal.com
I just draw them, collect my check, and move on...XD

*laughs* Best plan ever!

Date: 2009-09-18 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] voidmagus.livejournal.com
Try watching FraggleRock. I watched a few episodes of that now that I'm kinda, sorta grown up. That show was disturbing. Not that it was stupid or anything, but there were layers upon layers that I didn't get as a kid. Personality archetypes, cultural references, etc. Its actually rather freaky.

Date: 2009-09-18 08:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thistle-chaser.livejournal.com
Oooh, that sounds interesting! I don't recall watching it as a kid, which would make it even better!

Date: 2009-09-18 02:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veloxe.livejournal.com
I stand by my comments in the Joe Movie post, it's not supposed to make sense, it's supposed to be bang bang action and explosions for like 8 year olds XD

Also:

So Cobra has the scientific know-how and power to do some serious genetic work... strong enough to make monsters that transform from two foot tall cute things to eight foot tall monsters at the sound of a whistle being blown. I'm sorry, but why aren't they ruling the world now? Why not just release a bunch of these monsters...

I'm thinking more as a Christmas item. I mean, remember how popular Furbie was when it came out? You'd have one in so many households then you just have to play a whistle on all TV stations at once or on the radio or something.

Actually if it's Cobra they would probably construct a giant whistle, on the moon, that would send the sound waves through space (completely impossible in physics but whatever) so that it encompasses the entire earth all at once. Little fuzz balls go evil, you are now ruler of the world, HAIL COBRA!!

Date: 2009-09-18 04:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thistle-chaser.livejournal.com
I'm thinking more as a Christmas item. I mean, remember how popular Furbie was when it came out? You'd have one in so many households then you just have to play a whistle on all TV stations at once or on the radio or something.

You should so totally join Cobra!

HAIL COBRA!!

See! ;)

PS: Someone named Velox kept killing me in AV last night. I kept misreading the name with an E on the end! D: Stop killing me, you!

Date: 2009-09-18 05:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veloxe.livejournal.com
Heh, go alter ego me! Over the past couple years I've noticed just how popular the name seems to be. It seems like it's gotten even more used since when I started using it in FFXI all those years ago, good thing that strange series of screw ups lead to me adding the E to the end heh.

Date: 2009-09-18 10:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quistie.livejournal.com
Are you...are you mocking Snake Eyes!? I am shocked and appalled.

And what you didn't know is that tons of workers do get killed for failing the phrase. Whenever that happens, a modified B.A.T. would appear and clean up the mess, so to speak.

Despite all that, people love to join Cobra. The dental plan is second-to-none.

Date: 2009-09-19 05:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thistle-chaser.livejournal.com
Ha ha! :D

Despite all that, people love to join Cobra. The dental plan is second-to-none.

And you know, wasn't that used in an ep once?

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