Holy spamming posters, Batman! (FFXI)
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thistlechaser(Edit: I still have no access to my email, so if I haven't replied to your comment(s) you shouldn't feel like I'm ignoring you!)
Sorry for all the posts today, but I didn't want this to be flocked so I couldn't add it in with the last one.
Where'd this site come from and why the heck haven't I seen it before?
Warning on that link: I think it might have spoilers. I'm gleefully reading every single word on it, but I strongly suspect there are spoilers in there. It's the darned history of Vana'diel, the whole darned thing! Where beastmen came from! Where the races came from! What evolved into what! At first I thought it might be a work of fanon, but there are lots of matching screenshots... but there's also a lot of (professional looking) non-screenshot artwork. (Like this way cool mithra fishing scene!) (Edit: And look at this cool Taru picture!)
Gah, so much info! How the gods interacted with each other, how the races were when they were "younger", and I'm just a tiny fraction of the way through all this!
I'm probably being totally spoiled. I really should stop, but... gah. So interesting!
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Wow, if this stuff is canon, then Zubis hadn't given (or more likely hadn't known) the whole reason for the fall of Sandy to Bastok...
Before the San d'Orians could mass a force to deal with the new kingdom to the south, the attacks began. Bastok using it's newly created army made quick work of the outlying San d'Orian southern defenses. Meanwhile the Taru's and beastmen to the east launched assault upon assault on the empire's eastern boarder. Finally a massive assault on the defenses at Sauromogue by the taru broke through the lines of knights. Every last Elvaan fought bravely, every last Evlaan was killed.
So Sandy wasn't just fighting Bastok? They were fighting Windy at the same time? That would be a much more expected loss..
And eee! I love that last line! "Every last Elvaan fought bravely, every last Evlaan was killed." *sniffles* Poor, brave, noble Sandy!
Wow, I wish I knew if this was all correct canon or not. It must be, it fits what little I know. So much story! *bouncie*
Edit again: Maybe this is the translation of all that extra background info that was published in those JP books? Part of it is matching what little bits of translation I saw from that. In which case this wouldn't be spoilers and would be just extra info! (So much info!) But maybe it's spoiler and from that... (Odd that the website doesn't say where all this is from.)
Edit again: Gaaahhhhh. Gah. Is this true? Though I don't know of anyone on my flist who has finished CoP and Sandy missions (I assume this is spoiler info for one of the two of them, or maybe it's background info never introduced to the game). Quote:
At San d'Oria the situation was not as good. To their south, the birth place of the Dragon King and now a home to a monastery had been taken over by Orcs as their stronghold. With the mass of the San d'Orian army on the front lines there, the orcs sneaking around from the west was unnoticed. In the mountains around the city, the Orcs constructed a great fortress to launch an assault directly on the capital. The Royal family knowing the towns remaining garrison could not defend against a direct assault, they did the unthinkable. A Royal Knight was sent into the fort with "secret documents" to be captured. Amongst these papers was information regarding a weapon of such strength that army's would bow to it's will - Lightbringer. San d'Oria had essentially betrayed their longtime friends the Tavnazians, and the Orcs thirsting for limitless power on the battlefield turned their attentions to the other city.
Holy cow. I don't think I just missed that in the vast CoP CSs. That's just... horrible. Sandy is the reason Tavnazia fell?
Oh Sandy, say it ain't so... I understand how such a decision could seem necessary (or maybe really was necessary) but... gah. My pride in you has taken a hit. I guess maybe (to Sandy) it seemed necessary, but... but...
Final Edit, what's spoilers and not: As far as I can tell, the first four chapters on that site are not spoilers. (As far as I can tell, I could be wrong.) It looks like it's a whole lot of background info taken from books. Chapter #5 contains mission 1-5 spoilers, then the next three chapters (Hidden Past, The 6th Ministry, Return of the Talekeeper) are Sandy, Windy, and Bastok mission storylines. (I shouldn't have read Sandy's, the only missions I intend to do, but I did. :/ ) The next chapter (The Rise of the Zilart) will probably be full of spoilers for those missions. I think I'll skip ahead on those and try to find where the CoP chapters start (The Return Home?), and read those till I'm up to whatever mission we're on.
Those first five chapters are also the best chapters, in my opinion. The others I've read are just like overviews of storylines... obviously taken from CSs and such.
Heh heh. This post started as little more than a link but got pretty long.
Sorry for all the posts today, but I didn't want this to be flocked so I couldn't add it in with the last one.
Where'd this site come from and why the heck haven't I seen it before?
Warning on that link: I think it might have spoilers. I'm gleefully reading every single word on it, but I strongly suspect there are spoilers in there. It's the darned history of Vana'diel, the whole darned thing! Where beastmen came from! Where the races came from! What evolved into what! At first I thought it might be a work of fanon, but there are lots of matching screenshots... but there's also a lot of (professional looking) non-screenshot artwork. (Like this way cool mithra fishing scene!) (Edit: And look at this cool Taru picture!)
Gah, so much info! How the gods interacted with each other, how the races were when they were "younger", and I'm just a tiny fraction of the way through all this!
I'm probably being totally spoiled. I really should stop, but... gah. So interesting!
More editing:
Wow, if this stuff is canon, then Zubis hadn't given (or more likely hadn't known) the whole reason for the fall of Sandy to Bastok...
Before the San d'Orians could mass a force to deal with the new kingdom to the south, the attacks began. Bastok using it's newly created army made quick work of the outlying San d'Orian southern defenses. Meanwhile the Taru's and beastmen to the east launched assault upon assault on the empire's eastern boarder. Finally a massive assault on the defenses at Sauromogue by the taru broke through the lines of knights. Every last Elvaan fought bravely, every last Evlaan was killed.
So Sandy wasn't just fighting Bastok? They were fighting Windy at the same time? That would be a much more expected loss..
And eee! I love that last line! "Every last Elvaan fought bravely, every last Evlaan was killed." *sniffles* Poor, brave, noble Sandy!
Wow, I wish I knew if this was all correct canon or not. It must be, it fits what little I know. So much story! *bouncie*
Edit again: Maybe this is the translation of all that extra background info that was published in those JP books? Part of it is matching what little bits of translation I saw from that. In which case this wouldn't be spoilers and would be just extra info! (So much info!) But maybe it's spoiler and from that... (Odd that the website doesn't say where all this is from.)
Edit again: Gaaahhhhh. Gah. Is this true? Though I don't know of anyone on my flist who has finished CoP and Sandy missions (I assume this is spoiler info for one of the two of them, or maybe it's background info never introduced to the game). Quote:
At San d'Oria the situation was not as good. To their south, the birth place of the Dragon King and now a home to a monastery had been taken over by Orcs as their stronghold. With the mass of the San d'Orian army on the front lines there, the orcs sneaking around from the west was unnoticed. In the mountains around the city, the Orcs constructed a great fortress to launch an assault directly on the capital. The Royal family knowing the towns remaining garrison could not defend against a direct assault, they did the unthinkable. A Royal Knight was sent into the fort with "secret documents" to be captured. Amongst these papers was information regarding a weapon of such strength that army's would bow to it's will - Lightbringer. San d'Oria had essentially betrayed their longtime friends the Tavnazians, and the Orcs thirsting for limitless power on the battlefield turned their attentions to the other city.
Holy cow. I don't think I just missed that in the vast CoP CSs. That's just... horrible. Sandy is the reason Tavnazia fell?
Oh Sandy, say it ain't so... I understand how such a decision could seem necessary (or maybe really was necessary) but... gah. My pride in you has taken a hit. I guess maybe (to Sandy) it seemed necessary, but... but...
Final Edit, what's spoilers and not: As far as I can tell, the first four chapters on that site are not spoilers. (As far as I can tell, I could be wrong.) It looks like it's a whole lot of background info taken from books. Chapter #5 contains mission 1-5 spoilers, then the next three chapters (Hidden Past, The 6th Ministry, Return of the Talekeeper) are Sandy, Windy, and Bastok mission storylines. (I shouldn't have read Sandy's, the only missions I intend to do, but I did. :/ ) The next chapter (The Rise of the Zilart) will probably be full of spoilers for those missions. I think I'll skip ahead on those and try to find where the CoP chapters start (The Return Home?), and read those till I'm up to whatever mission we're on.
Those first five chapters are also the best chapters, in my opinion. The others I've read are just like overviews of storylines... obviously taken from CSs and such.
Heh heh. This post started as little more than a link but got pretty long.
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Date: 2005-09-23 09:29 pm (UTC)Still a neat site even with the lousy choice of artists. :) Oh! I remember now, Amano. That's the name, right? Man, how he gets published with such slapdash crap as the bulk of his work is beyond me. :) Yes, yes, many folks love his art. I'm even told that he does produce quality work; I've just neve rseen it.
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Date: 2005-09-23 09:32 pm (UTC)It may sound geeky as hell to say this, but my god, this site is like finally learning the history of your beloved country. I'm hardly a tenth of the way through it, and I've learned so much! And it seems to be covering everything (I'm reading about Ballista now, for Pete's sake!). I joked to myself that this was like finally discovering "news theme" for the game. :P
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Date: 2005-09-23 09:36 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-23 09:45 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-23 10:51 pm (UTC)The incident I refered to happened at an earlier time - when San d'Oria controlled Windurst and attempted destroy Bastok.
Bastok's victory at the Battle of Konschtat caused a stalemate, but it wasn't until Windurst managed to revolt and ally with Bastok that San d'Oria truly fell.
And yeah, San d'Oria not only caused Tavnazia to fall by causing the orcs to attack it, they also prevented reinforcements from arriving:
Just after the battle of Tavnazia with the city in ruins and the orcs over running to city, the royal family fled through the underground passages. Rochefogne was the family member charged with the protection of the Lightbringer. Furious with the loss and full of sadness and rage, he sought to use the power of Lightbringer against the orcs. He would regret this mistake for all his days. Drawing the sword caused a powerful explosion which shook all the lands of Vana'diel, sending Tavnazia collapsing into the sea. At the time it was though the orcs had malfunctioned one of their weapons....but it was Rochefogne all along. Washing up on the nearby shores without the sword, he had spent his life searching for it trying to make up for his mistake.
Of course we know now from CoP that Tavnazia didn't collapse into the ocean, but the explosion split it off from the continent - no reinforcements meant the city fell.
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Date: 2005-09-24 12:20 am (UTC)Ancient Flames Beckon is the first Promathia chapter.
I looked at this one, and I can't tell if it's the same as GameFAQs History of Vanadiel because it is all on one page and has no pictures, but it seems like a cliff noted version of that site at a glance.
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Date: 2005-09-24 04:13 am (UTC)I nearly fell out of my chair when I read who that boy grew into! I've run into him, but had no idea who he was! (That little fact is littered here and there, I think I read it in the Bastok mission section too.)
which has actually gotten me interested in doing Sandy rank :o
Based on what I've experienced and read, Sandy's mission stories have both the best story and the most tied into Tavnazia. I'm glad it's the one I'm doing. (The Bastok story one looks sort of interesting, but the Windy one looks pretty "eh".)
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Date: 2005-09-24 05:03 am (UTC)Just saying "Windurst is about magic, and Fenrir" doesn't sound very exciting, but the CSes are longer and more in depth compared to Bastok, and because bastok is just about rebellion, more original.
I am working on rank 3 for my mule now in Sandy.. I can't lose all my Outposts again on Hali lol x_x
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Date: 2005-09-24 04:16 am (UTC)And yeah, San d'Oria not only caused Tavnazia to fall by causing the orcs to attack it, they also prevented reinforcements from arriving:
Yeah, I read that after making the post. Gah... The first part is perhaps somewhat a little understandable, but this second part? :/ Horrible, but human all the same.
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Date: 2005-09-23 11:33 pm (UTC)Being able to recap CoP story before a mission makes watching the cutscenes a lot more fun. :3
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Date: 2005-09-24 04:10 am (UTC)Being able to recap CoP story before a mission makes watching the cutscenes a lot more fun. :3
Agreed. I'm usually so hyped up that I can hardly read, let alone process the story. Eee!
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Date: 2005-09-23 11:35 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-24 04:08 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-24 11:56 am (UTC)...It doesn't happen to explain the whole "how Red has puppies if he's the only one of his kind" thing, does it?
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Date: 2005-09-24 06:06 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-24 12:50 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-24 04:09 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-09-24 07:45 am (UTC)Oh, and.. the recent comments (http://www.livejournal.com/tools/recent_comments.bml) page is pretty useful for keeping track of comments. It doesn't keep track of replies to your comments in others' journals, but it does keep track of where you have posted, so it eases up things a bit.
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Date: 2005-09-24 06:07 pm (UTC)