I'm late to the party, but YAY! (RL)

[thistlechaser]

My president. <3 Obama supports gay marriage. Yay! New icon time!

Soon enough people will look back on this whole mess in the same way we now do the whole anti-interracial marriage battle.

So often I want to post rants. I don't understand how anyone can be against equality for everyone. I don't understand how it matters to anyone what strangers do in the bedroom. I don't understand how people who not too long ago didn't have the right to marry anyone they wanted could now work to deny others of those same rights... but I won't spam you all. You know how I feel, I'm sure. :)

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[fealubryne.livejournal.com]

Mostly-related, yesterday Facebook was flooded by various opinions about the whole Amendment One thing and Obama's (albeit election-year-fueled) announcement. I generally stay out of political discussions because I know my views are not mainstream and I don't feel like invoking the wrath of... well, everybody.

Anyway. Yesterday. With everyone spouting their personal opinions on the whole deal, Facebook was flooded. Mostly it was outrage over Amendment One, and people being pleased about Obama - I'll say the "norm" because the large majority of my generation, it seems, is pretty open-minded and pro-equality. One status, however, rather disturbed me. It was actually Alex's dad's status, the guy is A) from Puerto Rico (which apparently is VERY anti-gay), and B) recently became a pastor (I cannot understand the church... he carries on about loving others and doing good and blah blah blah, and yet... well, I'm getting to that.). His status sounded very much like the crazed Republican overreaction that suddenly cropped up with Obama's announcement - OH NOES THIS IS WAR ON MARRIAGE AND GOD IT WILL DESTROY OUR COUNTRY.

Pointed this out to Alex, and we got talking about the whole situation. He made a very interesting point. Said that people fear the equality thing because they think it will (somehow) destroy the country, or whatever, but that the reality is that it's their reactions to everything that will destroy the country. And I can't help but agree with that. Like you said, who cares what other people do in their bedroom? (As long as it doesn't involve children or lack of consent, anyway.) And yet... people decide to make it their business. And then go crazy about it. And then... yeah. Ugh.

Well, there y'go. You didn't rant, but you got a sleep-deprived rant from me instead! Yay! I'm going to make another feeble attempt at sleeping...

[thistle-chaser.livejournal.com]

As usual in my replies to you: Yes, to all that.

It's their reactions that are doing way more harm than the act itself. (Oh nos! Two people want to be in a committed monogamous relationship! Somebody stop them!)

And of course agreed on the whole adult/consent thing in the bedroom.

from Puerto Rico (which apparently is VERY anti-gay),

I don't have much first hand experience, but what I do agrees with that. It's all MACHO, I'M A MANLY MAN MAN type thing, from what I've seen. /stereotyping

[voidmagus.livejournal.com]

If I didn't have to pick up my wife from the airport, this would be much longer. Seconded on the consenting adults in privacy (or semi-privacy, if you lean that way). Let people be happy and satisfied and slightly sticky if no one is being harmed. And the big thought for this post -- the rightwing crazies love to quote one line from Thomas Jefferson concerning the "Tree of Liberty." Look up the letter that quote is pulled from, as there's a much better one. To sum up - Some group of citizens will always be misinformed, and pissed off about the misinformation. Sometimes they rebel. It happens. If it only happens every century+change, we're doing better than every other society in history. And in the end, the purpose the rebellion serves is really only to remind those in power that the people can rebel.

[kelen.livejournal.com]

I haven't posted much either because people are frothing over it. I am glad to see a few people reminding others of history. Like how it was once protested that black people marrying would destroy the sanctity of marriage. Not them marrying whites, but other blacks. (And please forgive me if I'm using terms that offend anyone.) Funny, I don't seem to find anything about this actually destroying marriage. :P There were laws about interracial marriages too.

It's all rather silly. I'm totally in agreement about the whole 'Who cares who's doing what in their bedrooms as long as it's consensual' thing.

[thistle-chaser.livejournal.com]

I just don't get how people have forgotten or think this is somehow different. (Especially the people who were hurt by the former laws!)

I'd hope we'd all have more important things to focus on...

[kelen.livejournal.com]

People don't care? That's the only thing I can picture. Also, researching an idea like this often disproves it... and they can't have that! ;) ..Okay, totally making shit up there.

There are so many things wrong with this country. Why can't we deal with some serious issues?

[thistle-chaser.livejournal.com]

Yep. How about kids who go to bed hungry or graduate high school without being able to read? But nope! Instead the most important thing is who sticks which private part into which. It's embarrassing. Forget embarrassing, it's shameful.

[kelen.livejournal.com]

It is shameful. :(

I did like how Obama pretty much said 'I decided to be a good Christian' in treating others well.

[thistle-chaser.livejournal.com]

Yes! Agreed.