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Prop 9, the ban on same-sex weddings, is back in the court today here in California. Driving back to work, I heard some of it on the radio.

The main, central argument of the lawyers on the side of banning same-sex weddings is that a marriage is meant to produce children. So c'mon, all you married ladies. Are you pregnant yet? Why not?! Hop to it, married men! Stop slacking off!

They played some of the audio from outside of the courthouse, and while it didn't surprise me, it made me really sad. The anti- group was so darned mean, hateful, yelling about how the gay people are sinners, wicked, unnatural, going to hell, etc. The audio from the pro-same-sex side was the white to anti-'s black: Singing happy songs, laughing (in a happy way, not mocking... not that I'd blame them for laughing mockingly!), just basically positive.

It would be nice to be there, to see all this in person. It's a beautiful day today (warm, skies are clear, everything's bright green), I'd love to be there and just stand with people to support them and hide from the scary hate-filled side be among all that positive energy.

They say the court's decision might not be handed down for weeks, but I really can't see it going any other way. How could we have a law removing basic rights from people? How could voters be given that power? If people put 'blacks must return to slavery' or 'women can no longer hold jobs' on the ballot and it passed, would everyone be all hunky-dory and just make that a new law?

Date: 2010-12-06 08:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] achika-soladia.livejournal.com
Taking bets on how many people would vote yes on a proposition that said "End Women's Suffrage."

Not that it has anything to do with the main topic, but I just thought of it reading the last sentence.

Date: 2010-12-06 08:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thistle-chaser.livejournal.com
Oh, I'm sure tons of people would happily vote for that, some women included. BIBLE SAYS ONLY MEN SHOULD WORK AND WOMEN SHOULD STAY HOME AND BE MEEK

Date: 2010-12-06 08:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] achika-soladia.livejournal.com
Oh, if the Bible thumpers practiced what they preached...no pun intended.

Can I ask a woman that tells me that I should believe in something because the Bible says it's supposed to be that way to go make me a sandwich and pop out my babies? =D Because that's all they should be doing!

Date: 2010-12-06 09:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thistle-chaser.livejournal.com
I'd pay to see you do that! :D

Date: 2010-12-06 10:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] voidmagus.livejournal.com
Sadly, one of my wife's employees is some weird branch of Protestantism that subjugates women. She has to work, and take care of their infant, and cook, and go without a car when one of their cars breaks down, etc...Basically, her husband gets to do whatever he wants, and she has to support him. She has no say in decision making.

She is greatly confused by my wife, who is strong, independent, career-driven, etc. Poor subservient girl often asks my wife how our relationship could possibly work without a man telling her what she should do (I would feel a bit emasculated by this if I could stop laughing at her).

I'm banned from talking to my wife's little religious nutjob employee. I want to crush her beliefs so she can live a better life, but I'm told it isn't my place to do so.

Date: 2010-12-06 11:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thistle-chaser.livejournal.com
*laughs* Wow, that's scary. I'd be okay with that if it were some kind of BDSM lifestyle thing, where the woman had a choice, but here... no. Just no.

Date: 2010-12-06 08:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sailor-arashi.livejournal.com
+1 vote for staying home and being meek playing WOW!

Careers are for suckers!

Date: 2010-12-06 09:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thistle-chaser.livejournal.com
You know, if someone would support me, and not bug me about housework and cooking and popping out babies, I'd be 100% willing to stay home and not work!

Date: 2010-12-06 10:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] voidmagus.livejournal.com
Ugh, screw that. I've done that. Back in the days of the WoW beta, and for a while in FFXI. I get bored. When I get bored, I get mischievous.

Soon, people in my apartment complex came home to find their doorknobs lubed up (KY on doorknob = unopen-able door). One enemy found 20lbs of meat nailed to his door. Then the production of thermite started...

Date: 2010-12-06 11:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thistle-chaser.livejournal.com
Ha. Yeah, I know. I generally get bored out of my mind at the end of a week long vacation, but now, when I'm at work Every Single Day, it's such a tempting idea!

Date: 2010-12-06 09:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veloxe.livejournal.com
Not just that, don't forget the generally stupid people who go "Women's suffrage...sounds bad, why would I want women to suffer?" Oh mah god words sound familiar! Must be more advanced city slicker talk for suffering!

Date: 2010-12-06 09:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veloxe.livejournal.com
At least those people have their heart in the right place.

Date: 2010-12-07 06:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quasilemur.livejournal.com
Clearly, they should legally forbid the infertile from getting married.

Date: 2010-12-07 08:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thistle-chaser.livejournal.com
They must enjoy worms, opening up such a big can of them...

Date: 2010-12-08 11:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] piratewiccy.livejournal.com
w...t..f..man, cally has some old school idiots in office huh? Marriage is not just so people can have babies and populate the world. I can't have any more children and I am engaged. So, I shouldn't get married cause I can't give my fiance a child?
Or what about all the other women in the world who can't have children? There is a thing called adoption. There are many wonderful same sex couples out there that are raising children as if they were biologically theirs. One of my friends I grew up with and her partner are raising a special needs child and they adore him.
Ugh, I feel for you sweety. Maybe one day soon things will change and everyone can get married, no matter what.

Date: 2010-12-10 03:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thistle-chaser.livejournal.com
I can't have any more children and I am engaged. So, I shouldn't get married cause I can't give my fiance a child?

I think that's their "logic", yes!

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